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Are 99.9% of Your Photographs Just Not Important Enough To Save?

My photo collection sitting at the top of my trash can

If this was your entire photo collection sitting in this trash can in the photo above, would this make you …

… actually feel relief … or utter panic?

 

What if I added to this scenario. What if to the best of your knowledge, all of your photos sitting in the trash were already scanned and safely backed up on a couple of your hard drives.

 

Do you now feel relieved … or still utterly panicked?

 

From everyone I have talked to about this scenario, it seems safe for me to say that I believe the world is in somewhat of a divide whether it’s actually okay to throw away your prints and slides once they have been scanned and digitally preserved.

And for some, hopefully not too many, I am sure they would say it’s okay to throw away many if not most photos before they were scanned and preserved.

Yes. You heard me.

Let’s Consider My Aunt’s Conflict

Logan Electric Slide File Model 200 Item #750523

Logan Electric Slide File Model 200

Not too long ago, I finished up a nice video review of the Logan Slide File 35mm slide box. It’s an archival quality metal box that is safe to store your slides in.

It’s the first video that not only am I in, but my Dad’s making his “SYEL” screen debut as well.

For this reason, I thought I would email a link for the video to my Aunt Karen.

Even though my Uncle has shot thousands of slides through the years and is in the process of scanning them, I really didn’t think she would be interested in the subject of the video. I just thought she would enjoy seeing video of her brother and I working on a family photo project together.

About a day or so passed when I got an email back from her. She was very complimentary of my work as you would expect your delightful Aunt to be. (Thanks Aunt Karen!)

But, she added something at the end of her comment that I totally wasn’t expecting.

 

We thought your video was very good. But I have to ask WHY we are storing all the slides???? I thought we were scanning them so we could get rid of some more STUFF! 

 

Well first, I wrote her back and apologized. I told her my intent wasn’t to push any kind of “metal archival box” agenda on her. And she told me later she didn’t think I was.

Secondly, I have to admit, that’s a pretty logical and fair question she asked!

I mean, why should the average person go through this huge job or expense of scanning all their photos, just to have a second set of them?

The Big Reply

So, I knew I had to write my Aunt back. I couldn’t leave a monstrosity of a question like this hanging out there — especially when she used like 4 question marks in one sentence.

But, it’s funny to me that I had to think about it for a day or two before I could even come up with a complete and possibly persuasive enough answer for her.

“Why should you keep your original prints and negatives?” I kept asking myself.

If the scans aren’t of high enough quality to warrant being able to toss the originals, what is the point of even scanning them besides sharing a few of them around with friends and family on social networking sites and email?

I became agitated with myself. 

“Shouldn’t I just know this off the top of my head!?” I mean I do have this little scanning website here with my name on it somewhere.

I kept thinking, “Why isn’t it just a known belief for people that you keep your originals — I mean, they are … they’re at least sentimental right? Isn’t everyone sentimental????”

 

Disclaimer: I think we maybe should just go ahead and get this out of the way. If you haven’t guessed it already from reading this website, I’m on the side of the fence that can’t help but practically gasp when I hear someone talk about throwing their original photos away. Yeah, even the “not so focussed” and “that’s my Mom’s thumb in the shot” ones.

 

Over the last several years, I’ve now heard the logic from enough people from the “other side”  that I guess I should at least begin to recognize this as a respectable option.

 

That being said out loud, I still felt I should send my Aunt Karen any non-sentimental logical reasoning that would at least explain why I personally would never want to toss out my family’s original photos.

I’m sure over time, the list will grow longer. But that week — silly, stupid, genius or pathetic — here’s what I came up with.

THE 4 REASONS WHY I WILL NEVER THROW OUT MY ORIGINAL PRINTS AND SLIDES

1 Scanning Mistakes:

What if I discovered I had made some mistakes scanning some of my photos and wanted to rescan them.

It’s like when you write something and go to proofread it for mistakes. No matter how many times you re-read your work, you always seem to miss a couple things.

This has happened to me several times as I’ve scanned my collection. I realized I had rushed through my workflow too fast that morning and a couple of slides were cropped too much and I was missing information from the original image.

I like the peace of mind knowing I can return to the original if I ever want or need to.

2 Future Technology:

How will I feel when new technology comes out that can scan and extract even more quality and detail from my photos than I was able to the day I scanned them. The day you scan a photo is the day you “lock in” that days’ technology.

What if one of my nieces or nephews took an interest in them one day — possible when I am no longer around — and wanted to rescan some of the collection with this new “futuristic” technology?

Storing the originals — especially film negatives — gives you technological opportunities later.

3 Scanned Before Cleaned:

I know I scanned some slides that really shouldn’t have been. What I mean is, they were way too dirty or moldy to produce a good scan from. I really should have set them aside and cleaned them with a special chemical first.

So I know I want to go back and re-scan some of them that really mean a lot to me that are in bad shape.

(I went ahead and scanned them, because as some of you already know, my goal right now is to get them digitized as fast as I reasonably can so that my parents can go through them and help me order and label them. Later, I will clean them up and make them look pretty.)

Storing the originals gives you the option to perform temporary scans.

4 Digital Longevity Technically Unproven:

The process of digital preservation hasn’t been around that long yet. We are all still learning how to save and archive digital files and have them last theoretically forever.

Are all of us digital junkies really prepared? Because DVD’s can rot, hard drives can fail and natural disasters do occur all over the world.

This involves backing up to several hard drives, storing them in more than one place (just in case a natural disaster destroys your home for example), and also looking into backing them up to the “cloud” (internet storage companies that charge a monthly fee).

Even though I am confident I am going to be responsible and look out for my digital files, I love knowing that if something DID go wrong with my failsafes, I have the originals to return to.

 

But Still — Seriously, What’s the Point of Scanning Then!?

All this said, I know… they do take up space!

Most of our lives we’re pre-occupied acquiring things, and then the last part of our lives we spend giving away these things.

And I feel like I am already ahead of schedule. I am middle-aged (I had to cough that one up) and already starting to really reduce the amount of things my wife and I have in our house. I am putting work into carefully consolidating down to as little as I can.

But for me, personally, these analog “memories” will probably be the last thing I will pitch — and that will probably be like the ol’ saying, “over my dead body!” Someone can bury me literally under my collection. It can be grass, then dirt, then my collection and then me.

personal photo album open with hand-written captioned photos

Am I really just being overly sentimental to a bunch of old paper and chemicals?

 

Shortly thereafter, I ran across a couple forum comments on photo.net that smacked me right in the face with this very question.

They were just a couple of thoughts out of many, buried in a discussion about 35mm slides.

 

Sorry to tell you guys, but 99.9% of your pictures just aren’t that important. If you don’t throw them out before you die, your wife’s next husband will. Including the so-called keepers.

~ Alan Klein

I agree with Alan. Our slides are not important to anyone really other than to ourselves and I think it is a fantasy to assume they need to be treasured like works of art.

~ Robin Smith

 

I guess it’s possible Alan and Robin wrote these words with little thought. They could have been a knee-jerk reaction typed out on their smartphones while they were waiting for their movie to start in a theater. They were just trying to be funny — right?

Or, they could have taken their time and typed out their true and sobering belief in the matter after months of deep-hearted analysis.

Either way, what they said is still truly scary to me.

 

Are we really lying to ourselves if we think our print and 35mm slide collections will be appreciated generations from now?

 

When my will is read aloud in front of my surviving family (or is that only done by rich people in the movies?), will any one of my nieces and nephews be upset if I chose them to take over as caretaker of my treasured old photo collection?

If their truth be told, would every one of them actually prefer to be awarded my almost valueless Groo the Wanderer childhood comic book collection instead?

Maybe, sadly it’s true.

On the surface, it does appear that our little “future generations” are being groomed to appreciate only digital images — consumed quickly and then clicked out of view.

 

“Oh look Uncle Curtis — there’s a cat doing something funny in this ‘pitcher’ !”

“Oh yes. Yeah that’s cute.”

[click]

[sigh]

So Analog Is Done Then?

I certainly wouldn’t say it’s done. I’m sure this is a conversation that will continue on for years to come.

But in the meantime, here’s something truly interesting I remember stumbling onto earlier this year that should make the answer less obvious for even the cynical. The information passed by me so quickly that it almost didn’t register.

But it did.

Jaws 4k Transfer Restoration from Pocket-Lint.com

Technicians spent 4-5 months restoring “Jaws” to extract 4k digital files from the original camera negative. (via Pocket-lint)

Jaws the Restoration

I was watching this absolutely fascinating 8-minute documentary showing how technical masters recently restored Steven Spielberg’s masterpiece “Jaws” for release on Bluray.

I mean — thank goodness! Right?

Who wants to watch that dirty old version of “Jaws”  that’s been out on just standard-definition DVD when you could watch an even newer cleaned-up digital version on high-definition Bluray, brought back to life from cleaning up that out of date, clunky original film negative! (Read a little sarcasm there)

What’s exciting about this age is we’re able to restore these movies—we can bring these classic [Universal Pictures] movies back to life in a way that makes them more vivid than even we remember them when we went to the cinema to see them.

~ Steven Spielberg
(Director)

Even though I work in the industry, I am still amazed at the level of technology that is constantly flowing from it.

It was easily apparent this movie was going to look and sound utterly fantastic when they are done restoring it. I was all set to buy a copy of it just halfway through watching this video!

Here’s is the whole thing if you want to watch it for yourself.

The Interesting Relevant Part

Here’s the part that really caught my attention.

As the documentary is coming to an end, at exactly 6 min 30 seconds in, the music slows and becomes sentimental. We hear angelic voices say the following in order:

 

The outputs of this project are both film and digital. We are restoring high-resolution digital files as well as recording a new negative.

We do both because digital files, while they are convenient to work with, and they allow us a wide range of options, for archival means, we still want a piece of film to put away.

~ Peter Schade
(Vice Pres. of Content Management and Tech. Services – Universal Studios)

This is our cultural heritage. It’s very important to preserve the physical film—the 35mm film and the negative.

~ Steven Spielberg

Film is a known commodity. We can put that on a shelf and store it in the proper conditions and that thing will last 100 years plus.

~ Peter Schade

 

These “harp strums” were like music to my ears!

All that money was spent to make an almost near-perfect digital version of this feature film, yet they spent even more money to make sure there was yet another (analog) piece of film created to ensure this movie lives on forever.

Well Which is the Right Choice Now?

Well I don’t think this says that my thinking is right and anyone who feels they wish to throw out their original prints and negatives after scanning is wrong. Not at all.

But, what this does prove to me is that even the technicians working with the highest levels of technology available, still feel there is reason to doubt that today’s level of digitization and digital preservation is “good enough”.

They must believe there are still just too many unanswered “what ifs” to take any chances by removing analog sources from the future equation.

 

So I hate to tell you, but whether you decide to hold on to your original prints and negatives is still going to have to be a decision only you can make.

And after reading this, you may now feel your whole life’s collection isn’t even as important as “Jaws” so what’s the point of even treating it like it is!!!

 

And this still doesn’t solve the possible problem if our surviving family members end up not giving two feathered hoots about inheriting our old fading collections.

What About Me You Ask?

So maybe you could say I have decided I am going to hold onto my prints and slides — not necessarily for my family — but for me. Yes me! Just having them makes me feel better.

And as for my surviving family?

Well I’m going to continue spending my own free time scanning and restoring all of my family’s photographs so that when I possibly have to take this analog collection with me to the grave, I will have a pristine digital copy of it waiting for all of them.

This way, hopefully every once and awhile, when the time is right, my nieces and nephews will be able to click or swipe or whatever their futuristic tablets can do then, through all of these old amazing “story-filled” photographs that meant so much to their loved ones before them… who made their beautiful lives possible.

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I really hope you enjoyed this. I would love to know how you feel it.

For example, why do you think people should save or should not save their original photo collections? Please let me know in the comments below.

Also, I’ve created an anonymous poll I would really appreciate if you would take a few seconds to be a part of.  (I’ll wash your dog for you!)

Cheers!

 

 

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4 Responses to Are 99.9% of Your Photographs Just Not Important Enough To Save?

  1. Art Taylor says:

    Hi Curtis,

    Another interesting post. You mentioned ‘story-filled’ photos near the end. Maybe you should place more emphasis on the importance of the story behind each photo. A photo of a group of unidentified people at an unspecified location, on an unspecified occasion, regardless of its technical quality, will likely be of little or no interest or value to future viewers. This is probably as true of digital images as of analog images (slides, prints, negatives).

    As you know, scanning analog originals is just part of the preservation story. Adding answers to the Who? What? Where? When? Why? How? of each image is at least equally important, even though it might take even longer to research the proper information for an image than it did to do the highest possible quality scan. While it may be difficult for us now to identify individuals, places, events, etc. in older photos in our collections, it will likely be even harder for future generations to add that information to our photos, even if there is a desire to do so.

    Yes, it is time-consuming to add keywords, captions, and descriptions to our scanned images but today’s software like Aperture, Lightroom, Photoshop Elements, etc. makes it easier than ever to do so, especially with our born-digital camera original images. While a time-consuming process, it does add greatly to an image’s potential value to future viewers.

    Some might argue that they have no family who might be interested in inheriting photo collections or albums. That is no doubt true for some people, but there may well be a local historical society or family history organization or museum that would love to acquire IDENTIFIED photographic documentation of people, places, and events in their area of interest and operations. However, without appropriate information accompanying each photo, such organizations seldom have the time or financial resources to research such photos so even if such photos are offered for free, they will most likely be refused since such organizations usually have limited storage facilities and can’t afford to accept gifts of virtually no value.

    There are books and web sites available that offer guidance in identifying and dating older photos in existing collections. Various clues to dating can be found by looking at architectural styles, vehicle styles and colors (at least in color photos), clothing styles, hair styles, details such as signs and posters visible in an image, and other details.

    For family photos, older relatives may still recognize and be able to name individuals. Perhaps someone in the family has an interest in genealogy and/or family history and can not only help with identifications and dating, but might eagerly look forward to inheriting a photo collection.

    Getting back to your current post, I agree with you that it’s important to retain your analog originals, even after scanning at today’s maximum quality. As you mention, technology is constantly improving so today’s best quality scans may look like garbage in a few years and there will be a strong desire to re-scan at that level of technology.

    Art

    • Curtis Bisel says:

      Excellent catch Art. That is exactly what I meant by “Story-filled.” ;)

      Your comment currently fills in quite nicely with what could and should be made into another post later. The post was getting a little long and I thought to veer off into a discussion about the benefits of captioning and keywording was too much.

      But I am totally with you. Photos passed on to family truly will be most gratifying if this information is included. What other way will someone know why each photo was important to you if you aren’t there to explain it in one way or another?

      So I couldn’t agree with you more, captions and keywords are the best way we currently have to do this so it’s well worth anyone’s time to create them. Just get ‘em done!

  2. Trevor says:

    I agree that it is a smart idea to save the originals after scanning. My hope is to cut down the amount of space however. I was thinking that after I scan a photo album I will not put the pictures back in the album, but put them in some type of container and store them. I have 30+ photo albums that I would like to reduce down to a box or two.

    • Curtis Bisel says:

      Ah Trevor… another on my side of the fence! :)

      I totally understand your desire though to save space. Especially if you have some of those old photo albums that were just huge. They really did make some big ones in the 70′s — especially the ones with the “magic” pages that you pulled the clear plastic layer back on.

      The jury might still be out on whether this would actually save space, but I’ve been putting a lot of my paper prints in archival safe polypropylene pages. The pages are quite thin, yet are very protective for long term storage. The only bad side is they are pricier than just a box or two.

      I wrote an article about it a little while ago: http://www.scanyourentirelife.com/2011/favorite-place-store-photographs-forever/

      But, I’m still investigating products. I bet there are some other fine yet cheaper options that take up even less space.

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